/lounge/ - sushi social

If you want a "light" introduction to the development of tea ceremony and the wabi-sabi aesthetic in Japan, Hyouge Mono provides a good overview. It's historical fiction set in the Sengoku era so it's got the usual warlords and battles you'd expect in that kind of story, but the focus is more on tea ceremony and the influence of the tea master Sen no Rikyuu (also known as Sen no Soueki) on promoting wabi-sabi aesthetics among the ruling class.

Perhaps it was successful because of the scarcity introduced by the wars, but I think it's interesting how tea ceremony shifted from shows of wealth to simply drinking tea with common but aesthetically pleasing tools and decorations.

I am usually the odd one out in these sites because I am a China weeb and I'm not that interested in Japan.
Most recently I had been reading about the debates between taoists and buddhists for state favour in the time of the Six Dynasties, aka the Northern and Southern Dynasties (220 bce - 589 ad). It was during this time when daoism began it's life as a religious movement, not from the "philosophical" kind usually associated with the Daodejing 道德經, but with a religious sect of a deified Laozi 老子 with it's primary scripture being the Taiping Jing 太平經.
During this era, daoism and buddhism, just being introduced from india, entered in contact with one another and transformed each other through competition in the absence of an imperial philosophy such as had been Confucianism for the past 400 years with the Han 漢 dynasty.
Not a lot of people discuss much chinese culture about these places.

>>22135
Maybe it wasn't just scarcity but the fact you could suddenly loose everything? Thanks for the recc. I've only known Okakura Tenshin's book which is modern but was still enjoyable. I heard Heidegger plagiarized it.

>>22138
Where's a good place to start with Chinese metaphysics? I feel like the language barrier is a huge issue with Chinese culture. Where do you even begin? I wonder what a full classical education was like in old China. What would have been the essential reads and essential stuff to learn?

>>22139
>Where's a good place to start with Chinese metaphysics?
To begin I would always recommend the daodejing. My own interest is with the yijing 易經, which is probably the richest in cosmological interpretations, but it's a very difficult text (not a book but a divnination manual). If I can suggest a book, Robin Wang's book Yinyang is imo a good introduction to a fundamental concept in chinese cosmology.
>I wonder what a full classical education was like in old China. What would have been the essential reads and essential stuff to learn?
Confucianism was, for the most part of Chinese history, the official imperial doctrine, as such there was a Confucian csushi roll that is now known as the Four Books and Five Classics 四書五經, I don't remember all of them, but they include Confucius's 孔子 Analects 論語, the Book of Poetry 詩經， which is a compilation of 300 poems from all over what was then the middle kingdom, that is the yellow river and yangzi drain basins.
In the imperial examination exams, people had to make a "thesis" of sort, which could be, for example, some exegesis on the analects or the yijing, or write poetry in the style of the shijing.

Are there any good books on the Ikko Ikki?

>>22079
Yeah I got shocked literally. It wasn’t a really intense jolt but went straight to the hospital and got the all clear. But since then I’ve stopped being attracted to girls. They don’t even make me nervous anymore and I don’t glance at them. No excitement. No heart beating faster when I see them.

>>22080
> It wasn’t a really intense jolt
Could you describe it further? I wonder if it's possible for me to become like you by following your steps.

>>22084
Sushi electricity really hurts unless the current is high and you get burned to a crisp instantly. You really really don’t wanna get shocked. Even small shocks cause damage to your heart.

There were two of them, I guess.
First was my first girlfriend. It was the first time I experienced this kind of romantic love thing. It wasn't too eventful. We broke up and it hurt.
The second was with a boy, whom I first met when I was with the aforementioned girlfriend. Not too long after we broke up, I guess because I was still hurting, I diverted my attention towards this boy, and started obsessing about him.
We started going out as friends. He was aware that I liked him but I was too coward to make any move. Instead, I tried to enjoy the time we had together.
I couldn't stop thinking about him and every time we would spend time together I was the happiest I'd ever been.
Once we went to a metallica concert and he said to me, mildly annoyed, to stop buying him everything and to let him buy his own stuff for once.
We used to go to parties (he was a party boy, I'd never been like that), and we would split the moment we got there, run into each other a few times in the party, and at the end we would leave together.
Everybody would always ask me: "where is D?", because we were together all the time.
Then, one day, we were at a kind of festival, and a little bit tipsy he said to me: "We've grown so close to each other"; that's when panic kicked in, and I started drifting away from him. Not too long after he got a gf and, while we were still good friends, he would of course spend most of his time with her, and I knew then that it was over.
We never went beyond the state of being "just friends", even though he did hint at me that he was interested. But I was too young and too afraid to fuck it up, I never did anything.
He even slept in my bed once and I went to a different room because I was too shy lol.
Such is life ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>22122
at least I got nice digits for my failed love story.
In fact, it seems like my whole life is full of such stories where I cowardly sabotage myself from love. Almost every single time.

>>22093
How so? Not enough people to annoy?

>>22100
becasue we have a perfect cute animals thread this img was good for. now i have to split my attention between two threads and an older thread has been lost because of this.

>>22102
We do actually have a whole ass actual cat thread already even.
>>>/lounge/10247

great thread, please post more like this.

>>22101
> Same. But the for some reason the chocolate I ate had this puke like aftertaste. It was really disgusting.
Was it a Hershey? I haven't touched milk chocolate for a long time but I remember American Milk Chocolate having this issue due to that company. I haven't been able to go back to candy chocolate after trying Baker's chocolate bars with cranberries. Very nice combination!

>>22116
Well, I agree with you that sex shouldn't be seen as the reward gained from a relationship but seeing sex as, in ideal circumstances, an expression of love can be an issue. I'd like to see sex as a gift, something reciprocal, but not necessary. Like other gifts, its something that takes place within a relationship, involves acts of giving and receiving. That relationship can be a passionate romantic one or not. And a romantic relationship shouldn't necessitate sex because this has the effect of forcing people to narrow their preferences to their sexual desires or pushing them to have sex when they otherwise wouldn't. People might have passionate feelings for each other but take them nowhere because they don't have any sexual desire towards each other. For obvious reasons of safety, sexual relationships should be committed and closed off to outsiders. I think you're right on the objectification issue but I have a bone to pick with personal agency. Sometimes, loss of willpower is part of love and that can be a good thing. Yes it can be distressing but love involves stressful emotions.

Liberal individualism has helped create a very selfish narcisstic culture where the aim is to maximize pleasure for oneself. The individual is free to do what he or she likes with her body (within some limits), to have consensual sex with whoever and however they like. The 60s sexual revolution really promoted this selfish attitude and combined it with this idea that each person has to find their true self and their sexual identity. And the best way to do that is to transgress traditional rules, to engage in as much risky and taboo shattering behavior as you want. In a way, that's allowed for new kinds of pleasures but its really morally soulless and empty. Sex also can't live up to their expectations either. Both conservative puritans and progressives sexual revolutionaries put too much pressure on a behavior (sex) that's really not that different to eating or other bodily functions. I also really hate the idea of sexual orientations. I can't put my finger on it but the whole idea just sucks.

>>22119
Yeah. I never tried it before and it looked interesting. Its probably for the best. I'm addicted to chocolate so maybe I'll eat less if I keep buying the vomit chocoPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>22120
They found some chemicals that taste kind of like cocoa, and are cheaper to manufacture than growing & processing actual cocoa, so they use that as a replacement for actual cocoa in cheap candy.

If you want to taste something really vile, try Palmers. They can't even legally call it "chocolate" in the US, so it gets fun labels like "chocolate flavored candy" or "creamy candy".

So anyways, there's a gradient of chocolate quality from US manufacturers. Palmers is basically the bottom end. Most kid-marketed candy like Hersheys/Mars products are partially made with cocoa with some chemical filler. You generally have to go for premium brands to get chocolate that uses only cocoa for flavor.

>>22121
>chocoalte flavored shell
Sounds disgusting.

I don't feel like posting here anymore.

I like to scream song lyrics.

In places where no one can hear me of course.

I bottle it up until I finally snap and ruin a relationship with the scant few friends I have.

That or I go in the woods for a while.

Okay right now I am super stressed. Small things fill me with existential dread. I can play a game or watch an anime I’m currently into but I am too stressed out to do these things. I tried playing the show but I kept pausing the video and pacing up and down my room castasrophizing over one sentence in an email.

I go jogging and shadow box. I don't have space for a bag anymore but its a great work out and relieves the stress.

im in the same situation sushi
i think its maybe the result of feeling unfree or dependent on someone or something, or its because of a traumatic event, idk because both things kinda happened to me but it was the trauma that really made things get really bad
my reccomendation is to just talk to people and leave the internet behind as much as you can, because talking and doing things with other people is the only thing that ever seems to help those feelings
the human brain is designed to feel uncomfortable when it cant communicate with others, its a survival mechanism
and its kind of funny, because despite all the fearmongering and self doubt i put myself through, as soon as i talk to someone in person i feel completely confident

I sing moonlight dentetsu

Embarassment is weakness.
Embrace the cringe, let it flow through your veins and oxidize into a strength where no one can tell you the rights or wrong of this world…
Become. Unstoppable.

The most embarrassing thing I've done is stayed in a relationship with a loser longer than I should have only to get dumped by them because I "demanded to much", flossing teeth daily & getting out of academic probation. It's embarrassing because I pretended it was happy in front of my friends, so I cringe when I think of telling them about all the disrespect I put up with.
On the flip side I finally wake up happy everyday because I know I don't have to deal with my Ex anymore ToT

>>19734
the trash takes itself out.

>>20000
I just wanna break free

Here we are. Wish I hadn't made plans for this evening; I'd rather just eat cake and watch my shows alone like most other days.

>>21664
Haha, I will live your dreams tonight. Happy birthday!

>>21665
Have fun and happy birthday to you, too!

>>21664
Cake is a lie!

>>18530
Another year passes. This has been the worst year of my life, if not 2019. I feel miserable most of the time, but enough about that. Mom bought a cake and croissants. That's nice. Not sure what I'll do today… probably nothing special? Hope I have the motivation to at least play a game or watch some kino.

I have finally rested after a day of being sick. Didn't have any dreams, which is surprising for me. I feel much more at peace save for the stress of homework. But I am content right now.

I was taking a break at work, when a stray cat came up to play. I gave him head pats but I still had bits of dry wall on my hand and he didn’t like that too much.

>>21987
>>22018

My cat shat on my bed today while i was away

He's never done this before…

I am not happy, neither grateful, BUT i got a laugh out of it

I had a really nice dream a few days ago, but my alarm rang in the middle of it, and I had to wake up. Haven't been able to recreate it again.

>>22025
I remember that as a kid, I used to have very realistic dreams where i would get nice toys, videogames and the likes

I'd get really sad whenever i went to the last place i remembered playing with them in my dream, just to find out that they were fake

what was your dream about?

>>12433
this actually sounds quite comfy. I will start trying this once the weather cools down.

Washing the dishes calms my mind, especially when I do it late in the evening and try to not make too much noise.

>>7434
Pressurised Water Washing

Kafe!

Sitting on my bed while looking outside my window with music on and daydreaming.

Been too lazy to cook recently, but today I made a grilled cheese sandwich. It was so good that I made a second one immediately after. Good lazy day food.

Tacos?

Eat your greens

Got a steak sandwich today; it was really nice.

Tips on cooking with a wok