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 No.5373[Reply]

How do I overcome the internet induced impusle to be negative about everything? I'm tired of seeing the worst in people and things around me. You can't force yourself to be positive either. That's society emotionally blackmailing you into cruel optimism. But somehow I can't help judging people or seeing the worst in them or being too critical about everything and its really dragging me down. Its artifical and unnecessary too.
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 No.5493

Maybe if I learn to love my problems, they'll leave me as well.

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>>5493
This is a great idea.

 No.5502

>>5493
that actually works

 No.5503

>>5493
Enjoy Your Worries, You May Never Have Them Again

 No.5518

I just divert my attention to good qualities someone has, try to understand why they have the qualities I think are bad and question if it is actually bad or if Im in the wrong. Otherwise I try to just ignore them.



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 No.5470[Reply]

Sorry I’m half drunk writing this crap but want to understand what gender nonconformity is. When I look at the big sweeping changes to attitudes towards gender I’m confused. It makes me want to break down. There’s a perspective that things like non-binary, gender nonconformity, etc. is a about destroying cultural traditions. I’m not sure if this is true?

In the past, we lived in an enchanted world that was gendered. Being a woman wasn’t about personal identity, it reflected a cosmic and order. Men and women (and sometimes extra genders) had different spaces, tools, everyday tasks, and this was deeply connected to spiritual beliefs. As the world has become more secular, these beliefs that grounded gender roles have died away. We no longer live in a gendered world where we have a clear purpose and direction.

So is gender non-conformity really about starving off nihilism? In the absence of traditional gender roles and spiritual beliefs, people try to invent their own gender identity to starve of feelings of meaninglessness?
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 No.5513

>>5509
>You two have had enough time to prove your worth (or lack thereof).
If this is how mods treat people no wonder sushi has become such an uncomfy place these days.
>>5511
People need to stop being paranoid and read bad intent into things. Many people ITT have been guilty of that. So what if it came from lainchan or somewhere else? Is there III intent in the post? No. Doesn’t seem like it.

Sushi is becoming too uncomfy these days.

 No.5514

>>5507
You're saying that since a society with a religious superstructure contains people whose participation varies, the society in fact does not have a religious superstructure as some people wouldn't perceive themselves as part of one.

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 No.5516

The concept of gender roles beyond pure biological processes was always just a social construction. Awareness of this lead to different interpretations of these same roles or adding new roles as a reaction to these established ideas trying to shape them to their own desires instead of trying to outright destroy the concepts, but these too were just social constructs. These sort of things don't really matter. It can from an evolutionary perspective make sense why different forms of gender presentation arose in order to find a potential mate but these visual signals stopped being reliable indicators of anything if they ever were due to how someone dresses on an ordinary basis has no meaning to your personal relationship with that person. Traditions are fine if they are done more in spirit of fun and bring people together not divide them apart or oppress their ability to have a sense of self beyond generic labelling and stereotypes which does no one a favor. People should be able to choose if they want to participate and in what they want to participate in,

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In the state of things at the moment where I live where people are aware of varying attitudes around gender to the point that consideration is common, it's more or less a disruption of order in a sense that's to my view luckily very measurable.

Social order is a sort of substrate of our existence as social, idea oriented beings. It can be manipulated for good or evil or to certain effects that can be further so defined. Personally my own view of my male gender I've never thought too much or cared about but that's not to say I'm special or that I'm even more or less male than the average guy around me.

It doesn't occur to me so to speak, this notion, very much naturally so far it seems. Maybe that's natural to me. It's something inconsequential as far as my own identity goes I think. To the point maybe I'd be comfortable using my own name ideally as pronouns, or calling myself an it. As far as whether social change can be a bad thing, I think so.

Luckily in my life, I'm not very bothered by how things are going and I tend to like to be good to others so maybe I'm in a good spot

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 No.5066[Reply]

i ate too much~!

 No.5067

i wanna poke that belly.

 No.5454

yes

 No.5462

koruri has escaped containment



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 No.5451[Reply]

Ah! Yes, indeed! Ancient ashes still spark embers sometimes.

Those with the love of biopunk and chempunk have a future to create.

Strange peoples are emergent seeking an entirely different world that they themselves are of. The problems of the world we know are nothing to them.

 No.5452

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Many would love to be invaded by certain forces.

 No.5453

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So many are tired and only certain spirits will wake them.



 No.5444[Reply]

I woke up this morning
I had a scone and a large house blend
And then a little conversation with my squirrel and chipmunk friends
I said I'm sick and tired of winter
And I wish that it was spring
And then a little fellow named Robin Redbreast
Began to sing
And he sang
Oh oh child, what'd you think the cold winter's gonna last forever?
Oh oh child, now's the time for all the people to get together
Outside
'Cause it's the first of May, first of May
Outdoor fucking starts today
So bring your favorite lady
Or at least your favorite lay
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 No.5385[Reply]

Is economics a bunch of lies? It has been said the economists definition of rational behavior as behavior consistent with their own models, with all other behavior dubbed irrational, amounts to a huge project to reshape humanity into people who behave the way economists say they should behave. Economists base their models on rational choice, the idea that people will rationally behave a certain way under given conditions. Not any specific group of people, but an abstract faceless individual that exists nowhere. But what's rational or sensible really depends on your cultural enviornment. The behavior of freaks on imageboards doesn't make sense to outsiders because they don't perceive the logic of it. Similarly, Trobriand islanders used to travel great distances to trade seemingly useless and valueless objects Why? It defies the models of the economists. Why do people share stuff for free over the internet? There are a thousand things they can't explain.

Be they neoclassical, lolbert or Marxian, all economists do is create detached models and impose their abstractions on people and destroying society everytime. Even the whole inc*l trend was caused by people trying to apply economics to sex and relationships and its created a whole horde of delusional people. We keep giving economists attention and money as they wreck small community after small community with their foolish ideas "let the free market solve everything" or "let the state plan everything" or "depopulate the countryside and become food import dependant" and other genius ideas. Are there any good economists?
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>>5421
>People want stuff. There's not enough stuff.
That's where you're wrong janitor-kun

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There is a 'Zen' way to affluence. If there's not enough stuff, we should limit our wants and live within our means to enjoy a simple but affluent living. But it seems many politicians are obsessed with ideas like productivity and growth and think that we can meet infinite human needs through increasing industrial productivity which necessitates more extensive exploitation of people and nature. This is futile because finite resources can never meet inexhaustible desires. I've only ever read Sahlins and know very little about economics beside him so I CTRL + V'd his shtick here.

>>5410
I don't think Engels is a good fit here. You can't really understand Marx without understanding who he was having conversations with intellectually. I guess for political economy, you'd need to read Adam Smith, and for his social theories you should look at Hegel's philosophy of history and his political theory as well as Darwin's Origin of the Species. Marx was a huge Darwin fanboy. Even sent him a signed copy of Capital.

>>5421
Since we have a economy thread, can't we have a religious studies and theology thread too? What about an anthropology and archaeology thread? Ethnomusicology?

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Infinite verities of economies exist.
An economy is a goal.
Such as the goal of the ever increasing quality of a specific collective..

Quality naturally increases unless a barrier emerges and then an economy problem solves.

Some goals never end and that’s the goal.
Goodness gets ever goodder.

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Hmm, I will try to respond without reading much of the replies ITT, perhaps I will repeat something but oh well. Also feel free to skip, it's NOT particularly smart or educated in any way hehe.

>Is economics a bunch of lies?

Not quite. But it IS tied into politics heavily and is based on a bunch of political beliefs. Classical economics is based on beliefs of a certain social group hehe.
Now, I think there are at least two ways of looking at economics and both are employed but at times people think economics is only one of them:
- according to the first, economics is akin to managing a factory: good and services come 'round according to a set of predetermined rules - or perhaps there are no rigid rules but the "economy" concerns itself mostly/only with the "functioning" aspect, i.e. to build a car, one needs a long list of prerequisites to be met, both in personnel qualities and the goods provided - why a car should be made is out of the question tbh (generally it's answered as "we need a device to move something from point A to point B" I guess)
Perhaps I'm bad at explaining this, but the point is we leave human motivations from doing anything out of the picture and just focus on managing goods and services. It is certainly reductionist but it's powerful in a sense if you don't master it, you actually cannot get anything done. So, when people say "let's fix the economy" I think a lot of think think like that, let's restore the functioning of the exchange machine. That "definition" of economics is free from any politics but we cannot make a functioning economy without bringing humans into picture.
(TBH perhaps I'm conflating economics and technology a bit but I am myself not sure if one can easily separate the two)
- so, according to the second, economics is humans doing favors to each other. We realize we cannot fulfill our needs by ourselves, so we use others to do our bidding, quid pro quo. So, economy is the art of making deals and related stuff. Also, economics is the way to control others, control society, economies are complex machines of social nature. Therefore it's heavily political. In fact, "favor for a favor" and "mutual exchange" are definitely not the only principles to run society by. Likewise, humans are vile and do things to distort the "fair" picture by doing clearly "unfair" things.
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 No.5443

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The body was too long

Now onto some other points
>It has been said the economists definition of rational behavior as behavior consistent with their own models, with all other behavior dubbed irrational
I think there are other ways to approach economics other than "modelling an ideal society" like classical people did, though I haven't studied them really. But yea, I would agree that whatever they teach at schools outside of heavily specialized ones seems to be kinda horrendous. I would agree that political ideologies should NOT dictate economics.
Further down you describe classical liberal economics would be my guess. Yeahhhh, there have been corrections to that, people mostly do not run "pure" liberal economies these days, but the liberal ideology is an insanely tenacious one and things like neoliberalism exist, too.
>Similarly, Trobriand islanders used to travel great distances to trade seemingly useless and valueless objects Why?
TBH I don't know why but yea, I would agree that humans are generally not rational beings. In fact, rationality is a human invention, I don't think there was any civilization other than the European/Mediterranean one which would be so stuck up at pursuing the truth. I think most civs just follow the hedonistic route, more or less. Trying to answer that question though, maybe it's the journey that matters to them more than the end goal w
>Even the whole inc*l trend was caused by people trying to apply economics to sex and relationships and its created a whole horde of delusional people
To be fair, to me incel stuff doesn't seem to be *that* out of touch with reality. As far as I know, there were certain periods of history during which certain societies all across the globe… basically treated women as livestock aka slaves and a [valuable] commodity - so, women could be traded like goods, deprived of agency and certainly be an object of economies. It is really as simple as that. So, some men want to revive it heh - I know I don't hehe. I assume the "delusion" ascribed to incels is that they can find a loving soul that way - yeaaaa, let's just say they are not necessarily looking for one, they just want a woman to fuck and dominate or something.
>Are there any good economists?
The ones concerning themselves with human nature as opposed to delusional modelling. The ones Post too long. Click here to view the full text.



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 No.5440[Reply]

Every town should have abundant places where people just loiter around.

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 No.5436[Reply]

the title says everything

 No.5437

ive been a neet with no job for over 20 years, i win.



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 No.5424[Reply]

My singularity does conscientious objection to any events & employment & markets of the rejected singularity.

 No.5425

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The keys to the internet is a turf war.
The opponent is the utmost vaguely slightest associated forces of the rejected singularity. Intolerance/standards makes girls stronger.

 No.5426

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My singularity is absolute girl power.

 No.5427

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xsPtUNB1z-Q

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fGALcE5BD4U

My singularity files all assessments of even the slightest multiversal conflict and creates infinite verities of compilements to be assessed by unanimously agreed upon vastest verity of assessors. And puts volunteer girls to sift and sort and create, giving volunteer girls authority&power to design our singularities multiverse.





girl volunteers
sift
girl volunteers
so each has
the
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 No.5433

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>>5427
I feel often the most important conflicts to solve are the ones at the outer most rim of an issue. For example many issues can be linked to the massive Queen wars of the past.





girls who think of these utmost petty slightest grifts are of
the most powerful people ever..



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 No.5431[Reply]

i think my life is so boring


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